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How to reliably anchor to plaster walls?

My house dates to 1928 and most of the walls are plaster and lathe. Some have been renovated and are drywall – I have not problem with those. The problem is with the plaster and lathe walls.

I’ve tried these, these, , and these, , and none of them work reliably (or at all).

The plastic ones work most of the time, but sometimes they don’t. When they fail, they crush as I’m inserting them into the hole of the proper diameter. This action then increases the size of the hole by crumbling all the plaster around it. I don’t understand how, when hanging curtains just now for example, 7 go in perfectly fine and then the 8th causes a huge problem.

The expanding ones don’t distribute the load broadly enough such that the force necessary to contract the length, and thereby expand the wings, is too much for the wall to take and the whole thing effectively countersinks into the wall.

The metal drill-in ones work great on the drywall but in the plaster walls, they don’t bite in, rather they basically excavate all the plaster and I’m left with a useless, monster hole in the wall.

Any advice on what works reliably for you would be greatly appreciated.

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